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logicd:

eightyprovinces:

Let’s all remember that one year ago today SIX people blocked legislation which 90% of Americans wanted. Think of the frustration in these faces and all the lives lost since then.
This day should never be forgotten.

>90%

http://i.imgur.com/pfalHAN.png

http://i.imgur.com/yHOFRES.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DLU3Oxu.jpg
Also note that NJ is rank 2 according to brady campaign for its gun control laws, and that Pennsylvania is rank 10. 
>asking no gun people in almost no gun states broad questions on gun ownership
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/record-low-favor-handgun-ban.aspx
Some more facts because you sound stupid
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries>Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling, calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense>Hemenway finds more reliable an annual federal government research project, called the National Crime Victimization Survey, which yields estimates in the neighborhood of 100,000 defensive gun uses per year. Making various reasonable-sounding adjustments, other social scientists have suggested that perhaps a figure somewhere between 250,000 and 370,000 might be more accurate.http://www.thecrimsonpirate.com/blog/?p=1871>The National Review Online recently published an article on the realtionship between gun control and mass murders in Europe and America. It also explores the misperception that mass murder is an exclusively American phenomenon. As it turns Europe has us beat.http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/europe-has-same-rate-of-multiple-victim-shootings-as-the-united-states/>Europe has a lot of multiple victim shootings. If you look at a per capita rate, the rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other.=============No rise in mass shootingsCrime and homicide is fallingNo correlation between firearm ownership and homicide/suicideOther various shitBanning guns would not reduce murder and suicidehttp://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdfNo rise in mass shootingshttp://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-185700637.htmlGun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unawarehttp://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unawareGuns are excellent self defense toolshttp://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18319&page=R1Mexico’s 90% Gun Supply come from the USA Mythhttp://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110209-mexicos-gun-supply-and-90-percent-mythDOJ Study Fails to Show 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Worked http://ivn.us/2012/07/23/doj-study-fails-show-1994-assault-weapons-ban-worked/Defensive gun usage high as 1.5 millionhttp://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/WP-Tough-Targets.pdf===========>64% of gun control advocates believe the incorrect assumption that gun crime has gone uphttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/64_who_favor_more_gun_control_believe_gun_crime_has_gone_up>53% of Americans oppose stricter gun lawshttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2014/53_oppose_stricter_gun_control_laws>64% of Americans believe it would be bad if only the government had gunshttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/64_think_it_would_be_bad_if_only_government_had_guns>62% of Americans believe that the government wouldn’t fairly enforce gun lawshttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/62_don_t_trust_government_to_fairly_enforce_gun_control_laws>74% of Americans believe that the Constitution allows them to own a gun.http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/74_think_americans_have_constitutional_right_to_own_a_gun=========Defensive Gun Use55,000-80,000 DGUs/year - David Hemenway, Chance, Vol 10, No. 3, 19971 million DGUs/year - Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology (Northwestern) 87 (1997) / Harry L. Wilson, Guns, Gun Control, And Elections: The Politics And Policy of Firearms, ISBN 0742553485, Rowman & Littlefield, 2007108,000 DGUs/year - National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997)250,000 to 370,000 DGUs/year - Paul Barrett (27 December 2012). “How Often Do We Use Guns in Self-Defense?”497,646 (95% CI = 266,060-729,231) DGUs/year - Estimating intruder-related firearm retrievals in U.S. households, 1994.Ikeda RM1, Dahlberg LL, Sacks JJ, Mercy JA, Powell KE. Violence Vict. 1997 Winter;12(4):363-72.==========I would like to post the official numbers from the centers for disease control and Federal Bureau of InvestigationIn 2013 there were roughly 32,000 deaths from guns.19,200 were suicides, thats 60% of what the media reports as “gun violence”960 were accidents1280 were justified homicides10,560 were actual homicidesThe FBI reports that approximately 80% of homicides are directly gang on gang violenceThat leaves 2112 in a society of 312,000,000 peopleNow lets do some basic math>You have a 0.000102564% chance of being shot>0.00000984% chance if you arent a gang member or planning on killing yourselfThe United States has a staggeringly low rate of gun violence. Period.Sauce- http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm=======15,000+ Police surveyed on Gun Control. Turns out they dont like gun control much and feel safer when citizens are armed.Articlehttp://www.policeone.com/corporate-profile/press-releases/6188461-PoliceOne-com-Releases-Survey-of-15-000-Law-Enforcement-Professionals-about-U-S-Gun-Control-Policies/PDF with all the questions asked to officers and results:https://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf=======http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2012a/commsumm.nsf/b4a3962433b52fa787256e5f00670a71/5de089825c00843e872579b80079912d/$FILE/SenState0305AttachB.pdf>Upon interviewing convicted felons, these researchers found that>74% indicated that burglars avoided occupied dwellings, due to fears of being shot>57% said that most criminals feared armed citizens more than the police>40% of the felons had been deterred from committing a particular crime, because they believed that the potential victim was armed=======Gun homicide rate down 49%http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/Banning guns would not lower crime or suicidehttp://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
======
The following is your chances of being killed by a knife vs a gun in a “mass shooting” vs being killed by a cop
http://pastebin.com/ZGKtmB2t
tl;dr
You are 75% more likely to get stabbed to death than killed in a random public mass shooting.
You are THIRTY-TWO times more likes to be killed by LAW ENFORCEMENT than by a random mass shooter.
0.00000396% chance of being killed by mass shooting. Or 1 / 25,253,000 chance of being a random mass shooting death
Chance of dying by a gun in general? 0.0095%
Chance of dying by a gun not including suicide that is often used to pad the numbers against gun owners? 0.0032%
What about other things?
Unintentional fall deaths
Number of deaths: 26,009
Deaths per 100,000 population: 8.4
Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 33,687
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.9
Unintentional poisoning deaths
Number of deaths: 33,041
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7
All poisoning deaths
Number of deaths: 42,917
Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.9
All Drug poisoning deaths
Deaths per 100,000 population: 12.4 (2010)
All firearm deaths
Number of deaths: 31,672
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.3
Guns?
10.3 for deaths total in general (remember how suicide was the bulk here)
Broken down
3.6 for homicide 6.3 for suicide0.30 for unintentional 0.10 undetermined
You are more likely to fucking trip and die than be killed by a gun.
Sources are FBI and CDC, just google for once.
——————
But please tell me more about guns and how we need to ban these dangerous evil things.

Logic strikes again.

50caliberviking:

logicd:

eightyprovinces:

Let’s all remember that one year ago today SIX people blocked legislation which 90% of Americans wanted. Think of the frustration in these faces and all the lives lost since then.

This day should never be forgotten.

>90%

http://i.imgur.com/pfalHAN.png

http://i.imgur.com/yHOFRES.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DLU3Oxu.jpg

Also note that NJ is rank 2 according to brady campaign for its gun control laws, and that Pennsylvania is rank 10. 

>asking no gun people in almost no gun states broad questions on gun ownership

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/record-low-favor-handgun-ban.aspx

Some more facts because you sound stupid

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries
>Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use

guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling,

calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense
>Hemenway finds more reliable an annual federal government research project, called the National Crime Victimization Survey, which yields estimates in the

neighborhood of 100,000 defensive gun uses per year. Making various reasonable-sounding adjustments, other social scientists have suggested that perhaps a

figure somewhere between 250,000 and 370,000 might be more accurate.

http://www.thecrimsonpirate.com/blog/?p=1871
>The National Review Online recently published an article on the realtionship between gun control and mass murders in Europe and America. It also explores the

misperception that mass murder is an exclusively American phenomenon. As it turns Europe has us beat.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/europe-has-same-rate-of-multiple-victim-shootings-as-the-united-states/
>Europe has a lot of multiple victim shootings. If you look at a per capita rate, the rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States

over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other.

=============

No rise in mass shootings
Crime and homicide is falling
No correlation between firearm ownership and homicide/suicide
Other various shit

Banning guns would not reduce murder and suicide
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

No rise in mass shootings
http://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-185700637.html

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware

Guns are excellent self defense tools
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18319&page=R1

Mexico’s 90% Gun Supply come from the USA Myth
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110209-mexicos-gun-supply-and-90-percent-myth

DOJ Study Fails to Show 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Worked
http://ivn.us/2012/07/23/doj-study-fails-show-1994-assault-weapons-ban-worked/

Defensive gun usage high as 1.5 million
http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/WP-Tough-Targets.pdf

===========

>64% of gun control advocates believe the incorrect assumption that gun crime has gone up
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/64_who_favor_more_gun_control_believe_gun_crime_has_gone_up

>53% of Americans oppose stricter gun laws
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2014/53_oppose_stricter_gun_control_laws

>64% of Americans believe it would be bad if only the government had guns
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/64_think_it_would_be_bad_if_only_government_had_guns

>62% of Americans believe that the government wouldn’t fairly enforce gun laws
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/62_don_t_trust_government_to_fairly_enforce_gun_control_laws

>74% of Americans believe that the Constitution allows them to own a gun.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/74_think_americans_have_constitutional_right_to_own_a_gun

=========

Defensive Gun Use

55,000-80,000 DGUs/year - David Hemenway, Chance, Vol 10, No. 3, 1997

1 million DGUs/year - Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology (Northwestern) 87 (1997) / Harry L. Wilson, Guns, Gun Control, And Elections: The Politics And

Policy of Firearms, ISBN 0742553485, Rowman & Littlefield, 2007

108,000 DGUs/year - National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997)

250,000 to 370,000 DGUs/year - Paul Barrett (27 December 2012). “How Often Do We Use Guns in Self-Defense?”

497,646 (95% CI = 266,060-729,231) DGUs/year - Estimating intruder-related firearm retrievals in U.S. households, 1994.Ikeda RM1, Dahlberg LL, Sacks JJ, Mercy

JA, Powell KE. Violence Vict. 1997 Winter;12(4):363-72.

==========

I would like to post the official numbers from the centers for disease control and Federal Bureau of Investigation
In 2013 there were roughly 32,000 deaths from guns.
19,200 were suicides, thats 60% of what the media reports as “gun violence”
960 were accidents
1280 were justified homicides
10,560 were actual homicides
The FBI reports that approximately 80% of homicides are directly gang on gang violence
That leaves 2112 in a society of 312,000,000 people

Now lets do some basic math
>You have a 0.000102564% chance of being shot
>0.00000984% chance if you arent a gang member or planning on killing yourself

The United States has a staggeringly low rate of gun violence. Period.

Sauce- http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

=======

15,000+ Police surveyed on Gun Control. Turns out they dont like gun control much and feel safer when citizens are armed.

Article
http://www.policeone.com/corporate-profile/press-releases/6188461-PoliceOne-com-Releases-Survey-of-15-000-Law-Enforcement-Professionals-about-U-S-Gun-Control-

Policies/

PDF with all the questions asked to officers and results:
https://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf

=======

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2012a/commsumm.nsf/b4a3962433b52fa787256e5f00670a71/5de089825c00843e872579b80079912d/$FILE/SenState0305AttachB.pdf

>Upon interviewing convicted felons, these researchers found that

>74% indicated that burglars avoided occupied dwellings, due to fears of being shot
>57% said that most criminals feared armed citizens more than the police
>40% of the felons had been deterred from committing a particular crime, because they believed that the potential victim was armed

=======

Gun homicide rate down 49%

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/

Banning guns would not lower crime or suicide

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

======

The following is your chances of being killed by a knife vs a gun in a “mass shooting” vs being killed by a cop

http://pastebin.com/ZGKtmB2t

tl;dr

You are 75% more likely to get stabbed to death than killed in a random public mass shooting.

You are THIRTY-TWO times more likes to be killed by LAW ENFORCEMENT than by a random mass shooter.

0.00000396% chance of being killed by mass shooting. Or 1 / 25,253,000 chance of being a random mass shooting death

Chance of dying by a gun in general? 0.0095%

Chance of dying by a gun not including suicide that is often used to pad the numbers against gun owners? 0.0032%

What about other things?

Unintentional fall deaths

  • Number of deaths: 26,009
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 8.4

Motor vehicle traffic deaths

  • Number of deaths: 33,687
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.9

Unintentional poisoning deaths

  • Number of deaths: 33,041
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7

All poisoning deaths

  • Number of deaths: 42,917
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.9

All Drug poisoning deaths

  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 12.4 (2010)

All firearm deaths

  • Number of deaths: 31,672
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.3

Guns?

10.3 for deaths total in general (remember how suicide was the bulk here)

Broken down

3.6 for homicide 6.3 for suicide
0.30 for unintentional
0.10 undetermined

You are more likely to fucking trip and die than be killed by a gun.

Sources are FBI and CDC, just google for once.

——————

But please tell me more about guns and how we need to ban these dangerous evil things.

Logic strikes again.

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